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— Dorsey Barnes Drane (Facebook) (Find A Grave)
- My wife Penelope is the daughter of a Hartman. This page is my working document for tracing her Hartman ancestors and relations. Several sources for their immigration are also included.
- The purpose of the page is to let me easily see what data I have and don't have for each person. I only list years and states here. I have more accurate data in my Family Tree Maker database (which is not posted on the net.) I focus on census records, especially those from 1850 forward. I find that the earlier census records are very difficult to identify since they only list heads of households.
- Along with each transcription of a census record, I have how it was indexed by HeritageQuest.com. Frequently these are incorrect. I don't list Ancestry.com's indexing because users can suggest corrections to them, and Ancestry frequently accepts the corrections.
- The links to records on the Ancestry.com and HeritageQuest.com sites are available only when you are logged in there. Ancestry.com requires a subscription, but HeritageQuest.com access is available free through various libraries and the Family History Centers at many Mormon churches. I access HeritageQuest through my local library in Silverton, Oregon. (Family History Centers now seem to be called Family Search Centers. See www.familysearch.org.)
- The 1940 census records have links to census pages on 1940census.archives.gov web site, where no login is required.
- Much of this data is gleaned from census records. Besides being inaccurate and notoriously difficult to read, I'm not always sure I have the right records. For instance, are J N Brannon (1860), Munrow J Brannon (1870), J M Brannon, (1880), and James M Brannon (1900) really all for the same person? (These Brannon records are in a file for tracking my father's ancestors.)
| (yellow denotes Pen's lineage) | Born | Died | Grave | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | Imm. | ||
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| Adam Hartman | 1788 GER | 1853 | died at sea, while immigrating | 1853 | ||||||||||
| Mary Elizabeth Stein | 1792 GER | 1868 |
1860 | 1853 | ||||||||||
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Children of Adam Hartman & Mary Elizabeth Stein |
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| Adam Hartman | 1813 GER | 1908 NY | NY | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | ||||||
| 1) Anna Eva Weber | 1823 GER | 1861 NY | NY | 1860 | 1853 | |||||||||
| 2) Christina Quencer | 1827 GER | 1911 NY | NY | m. ~1861 |
1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1859 | ||||
| Margaret Hartman | 1817 GER | 1899 NY | NY | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||||
| Hironemus Bickelhaupt | 1806 GER | 1875 NY | NY | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | ||||||||
| Mary Elisabeth Hartman | GER | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||||||
| Henry Hartman | GER | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||||||
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Children of Adam Hartman & (1) Anna Eva Weber |
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| John Hartman | ~1844 GER | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||
| Ann Margaret Hartman | ~1847 GER | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||
| Adam Hartman | ~1849 GER | 1853 NY | died while crossing the Court Street bridge | 1853 | ||||||||||
| Mary Elizabeth Hartman | ~1850 GER | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | |||||
| 1) Marvin A Hill | 1851 NY |
1885 CAN | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | |||||||||
| 2) Abel VanNest | ~1844 CAN | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | |||||
| Elizabeth Hartman | ~1852 GER | 1930? NY | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1853 | ||||
| Margaret Hartman | 1854 NY |
1946 NY |
NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | |||
| J. David Heckman | 1851 GER | 1926 NY | NY | m. 5 Nov 1874 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | Unk. | |||
| George Hartman | 1857 ONT |
1951 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1860 | ||
| 1) Elizabeth Kufer | 1862 GER |
1890 NY | NY | 1880 | 1870 | 18?? | ||||||||
| 2) Sophie M. Vogt | 1871 GER | 1930 NY | NY | m. 1890 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1886 | |||
| Anna Eva Hartman | 1859 ONT | 1948 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1860 | ||
| John Martin Vogt | 1854 GER | 1939 NY | NY |
m. ~1879 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | 1860 | 1875 | ||
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Children of Adam Hartman & (2) Christina Quencer |
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| Adam Hartman | 1862 NY | 1894 NY | 1880 | 1870 | ||||||||||
| Catharine B. Hartman | 1864 NY | 1957 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | ||||
| Elmer F. Snell | 1865 NY | 1943 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | 1880 | 1870 | m. ~1888 |
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Child of George Hartman & (1) Elizabeth Kufer |
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| Lawrence Albert Hartman | 1880 NY | 1944 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | WWI | |||||
| 1) Elizabeth Lewis | 1885 NY | 1911 NY | CAN | 1910 | 1900 | m. 13 Jun 1903 |
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| 2) Olive Maude Coats | 1883 NY | 1953 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | m. 27 Dec 1916 Watertown, NY | |||||
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Children of George Hartman & (2) Sophie M. Vogt |
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| Martha Hartman | 1896 | 1899 | NY | |||||||||||
| Louise Barbara Hartman | 1898 NY | 1981 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | Twin SSDI |
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| Percy Emery Timerman | 1898 NY | 1978 | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | m. 7 Jan 1920 Redwood, NY. WWI SSDI | |||||
| Lotha Katherine Hartman | 1898 NY | 1988 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | Twin SSDI | |||||
| Charles Howard Snell | 1892 NY | 1962 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | 1900 | m. 30 Nov 1916 Redwood, NY. WWI | |||||
| Adam J. Hartman | 1904 NY | 1992 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | SSDI | ||||||
| 1) Ruth H. Mattison | ~1909 NY | 1937 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | m. 20 Nov 1930 Theresa, NY |
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| 2) Mary C. Guyett | 1914 NY | 2007 NY | NY |
1940 | 1930 | 1920 | m. 2 Jul 1941 Redwood, NY. SSDI | |||||||
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Children of Lawrence Albert Hartman & (1) Elizabeth Lewis |
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| Emerald | Emerole Gordon Hartman--Quencer | 1904 NY | 1948 NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | AKA Howard Gordon Reed | |||||||
| Albert Alphonso Hartman--Quencer | 1908 NY | 1984 NY | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | SSDI | ||||||
| Alberta Mabel Sayles | 1905 NY | 1993 | NY | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | SSDI | ||||||
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Children of Lawrence Albert Hartman & (2) Olive Maude Coats |
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| Edith Mae Cooksley--Hartman | 1909 WA | 1980 CA | CA | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | 1910 | SSDI | ||||||
| Donald Frederick Henderson | 1913 PA | 1987 CA | Unk | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | m. 14 Oct 1936 Watertown, NY SSDI | |||||||
| LaVerna Ida Hartman | 1918 NY | 1918 NY | NY | |||||||||||
| Lorma Hartman | 1920 NY | 1920 NY | NY | |||||||||||
| Shirley Arlene Hartman | 1922 NY | 2010 OR | CA | 1940 | 1930 | SSDI | ||||||||
| Roy Bernard LaMora | 1919 NY | 1984 CA | CA | 1940 | 1930 | 1920 | m. 8 Sep 1940 Gouverneur, NY SSDI | |||||||
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Children of Shirley Arlene Hartman & Roy Bernard LaMora |
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| Penelope Anne LaMora | 1941 NY | |||||||||||||
| Dorsey Barnes Drane | 1940 CA | m. 13 Apr 1960 Las Vegas, Clark Co, NV. Two children FB | ||||||||||||
| Nicolette Yvonne LaMora | 1942 NY | |||||||||||||
| Don Buster Wiles | 1939 CA | m. 23 Dec 1960 Denver, Denver Co, CO. Two children | ||||||||||||
| Name: | Adam Hartmann |
| Year: | 1853 |
| Age: | 38 |
| Estimated Birth Year: | ~1815 |
| Place: | America |
| Family Members: | Wife
Eva Weber 29; Daughter Elisabetha 6 months; Sister Maria Elisabetha 19; Brother Heinrich; Mother Marie Elisabetha Stein 56; Father Adam 65; Daughter Marie Elisabetha 2; Son Johannes 8; Daughter Anna Margaretha 6; Son Adam 4 |
| Source Publication Code: | 2526.43 |
| Primary Immigrant: | Hartmann, Adam |
| Annotation: | Immigrants from the Odenwald District of Hesse. Book 2. Date and port of arrival. Occupation and family data may also be provided. |
| Source Bibliography: | GIEG, ELLA. Auswanderungen aus dem Odenwaldkreis. Band 2. Luetzelbach: Ella Gieg, 1989. 240p. |
| Page: | 127 |
| Source Citation: | Place: America; Year: 1853; Page Number: 127. |
| Name: | Hieronymus Bickelhaupt |
| Year: | 1853 |
| Place: | New York, New York |
| Family Members: | Wife Margaretha Hartmann; Son Leonhard; Son Georg; Son Adam |
| Source Publication Code: | 2526.43 |
| Primary Immigrant: | Bickelhaupt, Hieronymus |
| Annotation: | Immigrants from the Odenwald District of Hesse. Book 2. Date and port of arrival. Occupation and family data may also be provided. |
| Source Bibliography: | GIEG, ELLA. Auswanderungen aus dem Odenwaldkreis. Band 2. Luetzelbach: Ella Gieg, 1989. 240p. |
| Page: | 125 |
| Soure Citation: Place: New York, New York; Year: 1853; Page Number: 125. | |
| Ship Name: | Antocrat |
| Arrival Date: | 10 Oct 1859 |
| Place of Origin: | Baden |
| Port of Departure: | Le Havre, France |
| Destination: | United States of America |
| Port of Arrival: | New York |
| Port Arrival State: | New York |
| Port Arrival Country: | United States |
| Burthen | 893 |
| Name | Est. Birth | Age | Gender | Line |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Philipp Quenzer | ~1799 | 60 | Male | 14 |
| Catharine Quenzer | ~1800 | 59 | Female | 15 |
| Christina Quenzer | ~1828 | 31 | Female | 16 |
| Martin Quenzer | ~1841 | 18 | Male | 17 |
| Catharine Quenzer | ~1838 | 21 | Female | 18 |
| Martin Quenzer | ~1832 | 27 | Male | 19 |
| Name: | Philipp Vogt |
| Year: | 1870 |
| Place: | America |
| Source Publication Code: | 2526.42 |
| Primary Immigrant: | Vogt, Philipp |
| Annotation: | Immigrants from the Odenwald District of Hesse. Book 1. Date and port of arrival. Other genealogical and historical information are also provided. |
| Source Bibliography: | GIEG, ELLA. Auswanderungen aus dem Odenwaldkreis. Band 1. Luetzelbach: Ella Gieg, 1988. 204p. |
| Page: | 133 |
| Source Citation: Place: America; Year: 1870; Page Number: 133. | |
| (From the Watertown Daily Times, Watertown, NY September 22, 1951) |
| GEORGE HARTMAN, 94, RETIRED FARMER, DIES |
| - Golden Sheaf Granger Had Lived in Redwood Area Nearly All His Life -- |
| Went Sleighing at 91.- |
| (Special to the Times) |
| Redwood, Sept. 21 - George Hartman, 94, retired farmer who lived in this area nearly all his life, died last night at 7 at the home of a daughter, Mrs. Percy E Timerman of LaFargeville. |
| Despite his advanced age, he had been active until last July when he fell downstairs. Since then, his health had grown steadily worse. |
| One of the organizers of the Kirkland grange here and a Golden Sheaf granger, Mr. Hartman had lived with his daughter for about seven years. For about half a century before that, he had a farm near Browns Corners on the Alexandria Bay-Redwood road. |
| Funeral services will be Monday afternoon with a prayer at the Timerman home at 1:30 and regular service at 2 in the Lutheran church at Orleans Four Corners. Rev. Teofil Bartnicki, pastor, will officiate. Burial will be in Browns Corners cemetery. |
| Mr. Hartman was twice-married and twice-widowed. His first wife was the former Miss Elizabeth Cuffer who died March 14, 1890. He had one son by that marriage, Lawrence A. Hartman, who was superintendent of the Watertown public school buildings at the time of his sudden death April 1, 1944, at the age of 63. |
| On Oct. 28, 1890, he married the former Miss Sophie M. Vogt, who died Sept. 23, 1930. They had three children who survive Mrs. Louise Timerman and her twin sister, Mrs. Charles (Lotha) Snell of Alexandria Bay, and Adam Hartman of Massena. |
| Also surviving are a sister, Mrs. Kate Snell of Plessis, now past 85, and five grandchildren; four great-grandchildren; and several nieces and nephews. |
| Mr. Hartman came from a long-lived family. His father, John Adam Hartman, lived to be 95. Two of his other three sisters lived until they were past 90 and one lived into her late 80's. A brother, John Hartman, died just before he became 80. |
| His father came to this country by sailboat from Hesse Darmstadt, Germany, in 1853, with the Hironemus Bickelhaupt family. Hironemus Bickelhaupt, father of the late Adam Bickelhaupt of this village, had married a Margart Hartman in Germany; so the two families were related by those ties. |
| With the Hartmans was their grandfather who died before the ship reached the New York Harbor and was buried at sea. Another sorrowful event of their coming was in Watertown when the family, none of whom could speak English, was crossing the old Court street bridge on the way to meet a German who lived on the north side. The elder Hartman's youngest son, a child in arms, had been ill and he died that night as his mother was carrying him across the bridge. |
| The Hartmans settled at Redwood. But later, John Adam Hartman and his wife, Mrs. Anna Eva Hartman, thought their chances for higher pay would be better in Canada. Their son, George, was born there, in Waterloo, Ont., on Jan.11, 1857. |
| When George was about a year old, the Hartmans moved back to this vicinity and stayed from then on. His father worked for one of the German settlers here for a while. Later, the family operated farms on the Redwood-Alexandria Bay road, in the Calaboga section, and at English settlement near Theresa. In the last place, they lived in a small log house near today's Morgan cut. |
| Soon after he was first married, Mr. Hartman rented the Adam Snell farm near LaFargeville and stayed there for 22 years. Then he bought the farm at Browns Corners and lived there until after his second wife's death. |
| At Browns Corners in those early days, he looked after their cemetery there on his own time. |
| He yearly became active in grange affairs. He first joined the LaFargeville grange in the 1890's and then transferred his membership to the Plessis group. He served as master at Plessies [sic]. He then became a charter member of the Kirkland grange here and long served as treasurer. |
| One of those most interested in the G.L.F., Mr. Hartman helped get it organized here and he was the first agent the group had of Jefferson county. He brought the first carload of feed and seeds into Redwood for the G.L.F. |
| A faithful member of St. Paul's Lutheran church here since he was 16, he head served as treasurer of the mission board and was 50 years one of the members of the church council. He belonged [to] the state grange, having taken the sixth degree at a state session in Watertown in 1910. He was also a member of the Jefferson Pomona grange. |
| He was a charter and continuous member of the Jefferson county farm bureau and several times held office in that group. |
| Even when he was in his late 80's, Mr. Hartman used to drive his own car. And on his 91st birthday, to demonstrate his agility he got on a sled guided by his son and took a trip down a snow-covered hill at Orleans Four Corners. |
| (Newspaper Article, supplied by Arlene Comstock [dancoms@directcon.net]) |
| Redwood, March 10 -- Adam Bickelhaupt, banker and retired cheese manufacturer, celebrated his 82nd birthday at his home in Redwood today. Mr. Bickelhaupt is in good health and enjoyed the gathering of his children at his home for the birthday celebration and received the good wishes of his fellow townsmen. |
| He was born in Hasse-Damstadt, Germany. He well remembers the morning they left their home and started ... the United States. His parents, Hieronemus and Margaret Harman Bickelhaupt, had for some time been thinking of making this move. |
| Mr. Bickelhaupt was five years old at the time they left Germany and he remembers very vividly of being awakened our of a sound sleep at 3 in the morning and sleepily going down stairs from his room, half wondering what it was all about. Down in the living room there was confusion with several bundles of goods tied up and located about the floor. In the darkness his uncle picked him up and put him on his shoulder and went up the winding path around the house and the family followed, loaded with bundles, till they came to the main road where they packed themselves in covered wagons. There was the trip to the seaport in Holland, the transfer to the larger ship off London and the 15 days sailing before they reached New York. Grandpa was on board with the family coming to America, but took sick and died at sea. That made an impression upon the boy Adam, as did the arrival in Watertown at 10 one night the year the railroad was completed to that city. The train stopped near lower Court street and the family got off to find a place to sleep. They could not speak English, but were told to ask for a Mr. Falling who kept a hotel and could speak German. |
| The family group timidly made their way up Court street to where they saw a light. Reaching the place the father managed to make the name of Falling known, and the man questioned pointed down Court street and told them to "cross the bridge". Little Adam heard the English words "cross the bridge" and asked his mother "Vot vass a britg, and what would they have to do?" |
| An uncle came with the family and had a son the same age and by the same name as Adam. He had taken ill on the boat and as the little group made their way across the bridge the uncle carried the sick lad. Suddenly the uncle in German words said that the boy was dead. It was true. Midnight, in a strange city, strange people, strange language and a dead cousin, made an impression on the boy Adam. |
| It has been a long road from that day to this, but it has always been upward with Mr. Bickelhaupt. His life story reads like a romance. It will be told more completely in a series of short chapters in The Times. |
| Soon came the time when he was in business and July 14, 1874, he married a splendid girl who was a worthy companion as he built up his fortune. Her name was Mina L. Olney and they went to Watertown to have the presiding elder of the Methodist church marry them. There was a trip to Montreal and back to Redwood for the work before them. |
| As a successful merchant he began the manufacture of cheese in a limited way. There came a time when he was regarded as the foremost limburger cheese maker of the east with ?? factories. In all his dealings with the farmers there were none to say but what he paid them more than he promised for their milk. |
| When the Redwood bank was organized he was made the president and is a director in other banks and trustee of the Watertown Savings bank. Mr. Bickelhaupt is greatly pleased with the new, attractive and modern banking building that has just been completed on land that he has long reserved for such a purpose. |
| A couple of years ago he concluded it hurt to sell his cheese and dairy business to one of the nationally known dairy firms. For eleven years he was supervisor of the town of Alexandria. |
| In June, 1921, Mr. Bickelhaupt was saddened by the death of his wife. Two daughters passed away in their early married life. There are three children living, Miles of Utica, Carl of Redwood and Cala, who married Earl Hathaway and resides in Syracuse. |
| Mr. Bickelhaupt is a member of the Lutheran church. He gives warm praise to the people of Redwood for their kindness to him through all the years. In his fine home on the Main street, he is surrounded with books, magazines and papers. |
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